From Susan Barsby Oct 2004
I'm the granddaughter of Patricia Joan STRANGE. I'm now concentrating my genealogy efforts on my grandmother's line. I am seeking more details about Job STRANGE, born 1838/40 in Bedfont. He married Caroline Evans (born Pinner, 1840) and had at least 3 children: Caroline E STRANGE, William Job STRANGE (my great grandfather) and Ellen J STRANGE. In 1881 census he and his wife were living at 16 Myddleton Place, he as a pork butcher and the children were staying with their aunt on their mother's side Elizabeth Evans on Buckingham Palace Road (RG11 0108/63 22) By 1901 census, Job, Caroline and the 2 girls were living at 6 Goswell Terrace, Clerkenwell. (RG13 255/20 31) William Job STRANGE had married the day before the 1901 census to my great grandmother Rose Ayling. They were at 24 Kimberley Gardens, Tottenham and William Job was a carver in dining rooms. They had 7 children, the youngest of whom, Patricia Joan STRANGE was my grandmother. I am wondering whether Job STRANGE is the same as the Job born to Timothy and Mary in Bedfont (thanks to Yvonne Stone for this possibility) but have no proof! - can anyone help?
A reply From Ed Hanson Oct 2004
Yes, the Job STRANGE, who lived at various addresses in London, was the man born at Bedfont. The 1871 clearly lists Job STRANGE, 32, unm, butcher, born at "Bedfont", a visitor in the household of Frederick Cowper, 3 Spring Terrace, Lambeth (Vauxhall Ward). I have only seen the transcription of the 1881 census which gives the birthplace as "Bedford". The 1891 census gives "London" as the birthplace; while the 1901 clearly says "Bedford" again. However, since the only two Job STRANGEs who appear in the censuses are this man and his nephew Job John STRANGE, it seems pretty conclusive that you have the right man.
His line goes back to my ancestor, Thomas STRANGE of Watlington:
1. Thomas STRANGE of Watlington, Oxfordshire, married at Watlington, 30 Sept 1661 (also recorded 1664) Anne Beesley (Beasley; his name spelled Straunge). She was buried there ("Anne Strang, wife of Thomas"), 3 July 1695. He was buried at Watlington 13 Aug. 1706.
2. John STRANGE, buried at Nettlebed, Oxon, 13 Oct. 1712; m Katherine ---, who was buried at Nettlebed, 16 Jan. 1701/2. He married second at Rotherfield Peppard, Oxon, 8 July 1702 Katherine Wilder of Nettlebed, who was mentioned in his will.
3. William STRANGE, bp. at Nettlebed, 25 Sept. 1693; d 6 June 1746 (g.s.) and was buried at Nettlebed the same day; m at Nettlebed, 3 Oct 1714 (Bishop's Transcript gives 13 Dec.) Ann Baily, who was buried there, 24 Dec. 1737.
4. Thomas STRANGE, bp. at Nettlebed, 2 Dec 1733; bur Turville, Bucks, 5 March 1818, age 85, blacksmith of Turville Heath; m Turville, Bucks, 12 June 1760 Mary Clement, bur Turville, 7 Nov 1789
5. John, bp Turville, Bucks, 30 June 1771; d Summer Heath, bur Turville, 26 March 1853; m Turville, 1 May 1797 Ann Clewer, bur Turville, 24 March 1856, age 83
6. Timothy STRANGE, bp Turville, 19 June 1803; d 1866; m Mary .
7. Job STRANGE, b Bedfont, c1839; m 1872 Caroline Evans, b Middlesex, c1841
From John and Margaret Moore Oct 2004
Ed, I didn't realize before that you are related to my wife. The first four generations you show are her direct ancestors, but she is descended from the second John's brother, William. The first John's first wife was Katherine Butler. He married her at Nettlebed 5 Dec 1687, his surname being recorded as Strong. She had a brother, William, and their parents were William and Elizabeth (Aldridge). All this is from the Nettlebed PRs, but I can give you more details if you want.
From Rae Fether in August 2005
An Adminstration for James Strange was sworn by his wife Elizabeth Bailey Strange for the sum of One thousand pounds at the London Consistory Court in 1824:
"On the ninth day of December One thousand and eighteen hundred and twenty four Administration of all said .............. the Goods Chattels and ......... of ....... James Strange ........ of Wardour Street Soho in the County of Middlesex Plumber and Glazier .deceased was ....? ..ommitted and granted to Elizabeth Bailey Strange Widow the Relict of the said deceased having been first sworn duly to administer."
However in the Estate Duty Register where one would expect to see some detail on what duty was paid on "Sum sworn under 1000 " pounds there was only a signed note...." £29 ret' (? could be returned or retained?) on the grounds of Debts. It seems that James had misled his wife about the state of his finances. I have not found out where he died or was buried but he died before the birth of his youngest son Frederick Metzner Strange on 28 December 1825 who was no doubt named after his uncle William Lloyd Metzner. Elizabeth Bailey Strange's sister Mary Thompson was married to William Lloyd Metzner
The family stayed on at Wardour Street for a year or so according to the rates, later appearing in Nelson Street, Greenwich in the 19841 Census. In the same road lived Elizabeth Bailey Strange's mother, Mrs Mary Clementson, (previously Thompson, nee Bailey), who died in 1838 leaving an estate of around £9000.
The will of James Thompson Strange, eldest son of James Strange:
On the 27th day of September 1869 the Will with two Codocils, thereto of James Thompson late of No 19 Alfred Street and of No 5 Francis Street, Tottenham Court Road in the County of Middlesex Wine and Spirits Merchant Deceased, who died on the 28th day of April 1869 at No19 Alfred Street aforesaid was proved in the Principal Registry of Her Majesty's Court of Probate, by Oath Of Martha Strange of No 19 Alfred Street and of No 5 Francis Street aforesaid Widow the Relict and James Walter Strange of the "London" Coffee House Ludgate Hill in the City Of London Wine Merchant the son the Executors named in the Will and Francis Thompson Strange of No 7 Stratford Road Hastings in the County of Sussex Hosier the Brother the Executor named in the second codicil, they having been first sworn duly to administer, Effects under £8000
The Estate Duty Register gives a fairly clear picture of its intention:
"to sell and proceeds to Relict for life with power to advance any part not exceeding 1/2 expected to..............(the children) and on her death equally............ (to children) at 21 but on................." "power to carry on business"
Children were: James Walter Strange, Orlando Bailey, Frederick William, Elizabeth Patty and Frank Hastings.
Orlando received £570 on 19th October 1882, (probably for his marriage), on which duty was paid. After the death of Martha Strange in December 1884 the sum of only £2605 was left to be distributed to the children and duty was paid on the sum. Between 1869 and 1884 Martha and the children appeared to have got through about £5000 of the original £8000 estate.
James Walter Strange, my great grandfather, probably took over his father's business and sadly went into liquidation in 1880., causing a family rift
From: Heather Olsen
Subject: Middlesex lookup request:
I wonder if anyone on the list might have access to the parish records of St. Marylebone, St. Mary in Middlesex The IGI lists the marriage of a Thomas STRANGE and Mary PEPPER on 4 June 1804. I would be very interested in whether the record shows Thomas to be a widower and of Kingston, Surrey-- if so then these two would be my ancestors, if not, back to the drawing board. I would also appreciate it if list members would keep their eyes open for the marriage of a Thomas STRANGE and Lydia (----) about 1786-89. Their first child was born in Kingston in Dec 1789.
From Sara Scott (nee Lazenby) Mar 2004
My Great Grandfather was Thomas Wait STRANGE b.1860 England (Found Q1 1861 Thomas Whate STRANGE, Chelsea, Mike S.), died December 14, 1928. (I have his funeral arrangement papers and a little remembrance card from the funeral and they both have spelt his name Whate.) Married Sarah Ann Mackness in 1894 in Northampton, Northamptonshire
I have letters his siblings wrote to him while he was away at war around 1900-1901. One was signed by 'your loving sister Louisa' and another was signed 'your loving brother and sister Harry & Annie'. The address on the letter from Harry and Annie was '42 Mortimer Rd., Kingsland N, London'. The letters I have from his wife Sarah Ann STRANGE nee. Mackness was '61 Palmerston St. Battersea Park Road, London S.W.'.
I want to find out what happened to Louisa, Annie and Harry.
My Grandmother was Lilian Ada Lazenby, nee STRANGE, born December 21, 1897. Now I have found that she had a brother Thomas Harry STRANGE b.1896 and sister Jennie Emily L STRANGE b.1895. Her marriage licence states her father as Thomas Wait STRANGE and he has signed his name that way too.
Found in 1881 census (Mike S):
Possibly two brothers John and James, both much older than Thomas, (all born in Chelsea) and their mother Caroline.
From: Ruth Bowskill
I have the birth certificate of my Great Grandmother Rose Alice HAYWARD Rose was born on 27th March 1883,at 1 Alfred cottages, Turnham green, Chiswick, Middlesex. Her father John Thomas HAYWARD, Her mother Rachel Hayward formerly STRANGE. John Thomas Hayward's occupation being Carman / Carrier (see below) On putting these names into the search engine your STRANGE website came up! The last child listed to Rachel STRANGE and John Hayward, was John Hayward born 1878 - 1880, my Great Grandmother being born in 1883 I understand that Rose was disowned by her family around 1905 when she married 'beneath her', and had no more contact with her family. She lived in Hounslow all her life. As I live in West Wales I have not yet had the chance to look at any census returns, so can't tell you much more. If these people are not connected it will make my family history much harder, there will be two John and Rachel Hayward's of about the same age, and both in the Brentford area.
The family can be found in the 1881 Census at 1 Alfred Cottages, Chiswick, Middlesex, England. Source: RO Ref RG11 Piece 1351 Folio 116 Page 35. The family was submitted by Yvonne Stone. Lucy, one of John and Rachel Hayward's children, was born 1872 and was Yvonne's grandmother.
Ruth later said that ....
I contacted you about a year ago with regards my great-great-grandmother, Rachel STRANGE of Bedfont Middlesex. Yvonne Stone and I are related; two of Rachel STRANGE's daughters, Lucy, Yvonne's Grandmother, and Rose, my great-grandmother married two 'Edwards' brothers, - a bit complicated, but it meant that we share even more relatives!
From Monique Jones
I have a family named STRANGE on a branch of my tree,
Charles Ronald STRANGE Born: Abt 1883 - England,
+ Abt 1905 London, England to Lillie M. TOZER Born: 1880, Wandsworth, Streatham, London SW.
Died: Apr 1965, Hampton Court (or possibly as Lilian AM STRANGE (age 82) Q2 1962 MDX S.)
Ran away to sea with Charles STRANGE - no-one knows what happened to him.
1 Florence STRANGE (possibly born as Florence Edith STRANGE Dec quarter 1905 Fulham)
married as Florence E to Ronald George Henry Victor HAYWARD Dec quarter 1935 Fulham.
Born: 28 Aug 1906 Fulham, London, (She was a Pianist)
Died: 3 Aug 1971 - Greys Inn, London, England
2 Gladys Ethel STRANGE born March quarter 1907 Fulham ,
married 1933 Q3 to Alexander FROST at Kensington. Born: 11 Dec 1907 - Fulham, London
Died: 21 Jul 1973,
3 Charles Ronald STRANGE born September quarter 1909 Wandsworth,
married 12 Apr 1930 Hornsey to Eleanor MAYHEW Born: 17 Jun 1909 - Fulham, London,
Died: 14 Mar 1943, in World War 2 over North Sea - In Air Force
4 Jack W. STRANGE born December quarter 1912 Fulham,
Died March quarter 1916 Chelsea age 3
5 Unknown STRANGE (Believed to be Winifred M STRANGE (Tozer) born Dec 1913 She married
Greville Philip Austin COLLINS Sept 1934 Brentford 3a 706)
From: Pat de Haer
I have some records for WW1 for a George Samuel STRANGE age 26 in 1914 and at that time living in Stratford London. He was a sawyers labourer and appointed to the Essex Regiment. Killed in action 26/10/1916. Anyone interested again contact me and I will pass on a copy of what I have.
Marriage at St Luke's Finsbury, Middlesex in 1793. Thomas Bishop of this Parish Bachelor and Rachel STRANGE of this Parish Spinster were married in this church by Banns this 14th of August 1793 by me Jno Evans. Both signed their names and the witnesses were Ann Bishop, Philip Bishop, F. STRANGE and Ann STRANGE.
In the Church Rate Books for 1864 for Shoreditch, there is a James STRANGE living at 58 Margaret Street Haggerston, Middlesex.
Anyone lost a Maud STRANGE age 8 in 1891?. Well she can be found at the Dr Stephensons Children's Home and Orphanage on Bonner Rd, Bethnal Green in the 1891 census. Born is "N.K", not known. If you are interested it can be found under RG12/272, Folio 123B.
Found living in Saffron Hill in the Poor Law Records for Saffron Hill, Hatton Garden and Ely (Clerkenwell) Rents for Michaelmas 1793 a Wm STRANGE.
Niki (Nicola) STRANGE
I am the daughter of Michael (born 1946) and Andrea (nee CHARLTON) STRANGE, now of Sidcup but we were all born in Tottenham. My dad, Mike, is the son of Arthur and Lillian (nee FLITT, father Edmund FLITT) STRANGE, and brother of Arthur and Derek (now both deceased). My grandfather was the son of James b1825 and Sarah b c1875 (nee ELVIN) STRANGE (he was one of 14 kids) of the East End. James' father was also James b c1852 married to Alice and his father before him was again James b c1821 married to Esther. The later being in Hackney in both the 1851 and 1861 census.
From Cassandra Fox
I have a Louisa STRANGE who married Henry Stone in 1839 in St George in the East (FreeBMD). In the same year and after they married they came to Australia. She states that her parents are John STRANGE, baker and wife Maria; I found John STRANGE, baker, in the "trade directory". Henry and Louisa are my 1st free settlers to Australia in 1839 arriving on the "Orestes".
From Yvonne McGarry <firstname.lastname@example.org> Nov 2005
1. George Strange Brewer (deceased prior to marriage below)
2 Charles George Strange born c1821
+ Ann Cook 12th October 1840, Trinity Church, Marylebone
Wedding Cert states living at 33 Exeter Place, Paddington.
3 Margaret Strange b c1846
+ Thomas Williams 24th September 1864, Christchurch,Marylebone
3 William Albert Strange b 11th April 1860
(states on birth cert Father Occ: Corn Dealer Carman.
Parents living at 42 Princess Street, Marylebone)
3 Charles Arthur Strange b c1863
On 1851 census at 3 Princess Mews, Marylebone. Source: H0107/1491
George Strange abt 1821 Head birthplace: Marylebone Occ: Brewers Assistant
Ann Strange abt 1823 Wife birthplace: Marylebone
Margaret Strange abt 1846 Dau birthplace: Marylebone
On 1861 census living at 42 Princess Street, Marylebone. Source: RG9/86
George Strange abt 1822 Head birthplace: Marylebone Occ: Carter
Ann Strange abt 1831 Wife birthplace: Marylebone Occ: Dressmaker
M Strange abt 1846 Dau birthplace: Marylebone Occ: Dressmaker
William Strange abt 1860 Son birthplace: Marylebone
On 1871 census living at 25 Salisbury Street, Marylebone. Source: RG10/181
Charles G Strange abt 1822 Head birthplace: Paddington Occ: Ominibus Driver
Ann Strange abt 1823 Wife birthplace: Pankrish
Charles Strange abt 1862 Son birthplace: Marylebone
William Strange abt 1860 Son birthplace: Bayswater
On 1881 census living at 24 Fernhead Road, Paddington. Source: RG11/0009
George Strange abt 1821 Head birthplace: Marylebone Occ: Ominibus Driver
Ann Strange abt 1823 Wife birthplace: Marylebone
Arthur Strange abt 1862 Son birthplace: Marylebone
Wm Strange abt 1860 Son birthplace: Bayswater
From Trish Marshall nee Strange told us about the following ancestors in October 2006:
John Strange [her g.grandfather *]
John Arthur Strange
Stanley Arthur Strange
All were from St Pancras and Islington,
* Marriage: GRO Pancras June quarter 1874 1b 172 , St Andrews Haverstock Hill, John Strange, 20, railway fireman, residing at 11 Gospel Oak Grove father Benjamin, bricklayer, married Amy Morris, residing at 8 Percival Street, daughter of William Morris, pianoforte maker, witnesses all Morris. Trish said she could not find GRO references to fit the Benjamin/John connection has so far produced nothing. John Strange was later an engine driver, living in St Pancras. My father, Stanley Arthur Strange 1915-1959, told of :
i) a connection with the French Navy.
ii) connections with Suffolk
iii) connections with cattle and Scotland - correct - maternal Gregory family of drovers.
iv) there is also the female name LOUIE. John's 2nd dau was Louie and I had an aunt Louie.
Perhaps fantasy , well, maybe!